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This has been mentioned before, but it bears repeating.

New Google privacy policy allows even more access to personal information

Published March 01, 2012

| Associated Press



SAN FRANCISCO – If you're amazed -- and maybe even a little alarmed -- about how much Google seems to know about you, brace yourself. Beginning Thursday, Google will operate under a streamlined privacy policy that enables the Internet's most powerful company to dig even deeper into the lives of its more than 1 billion users.

Google says the changes will make it easier for consumers to understand how it collects personal information, and allow the company to create more helpful and compelling services. Critics, including most of the country's state attorneys general and a top regulator in Europe, argue that Google is trampling on people's privacy rights in its relentless drive to sell more ads.

Here's a look at some of the key issues to consider as Google tries to learn about you.

Q: How will Google's privacy changes affect users?

A: Google Inc. is combining more than 60 different privacy policies so it will be able to throw all the data it gathers about each of its logged-in users into personal dossiers. The information Google learns about you while you enter requests into its search engine can be culled to suggest videos to watch when you visit the company's YouTube site.

Users who write a memo on Google's online word processing program, Docs, might be alerted to the misspelling of the name of a friend or co-worker a user has communicated with on Google's Gmail. The new policy pools information from all Google-operated services, empowering the company to connect the dots from one service to the next.

Q: Why is Google making these changes?

A: The company, based in Mountain View, Calif., says it is striving for a "beautifully simple, intuitive user experience across Google." What Google hasn't spent much time talking about is how being able to draw more revealing profiles about its users will help sell advertising -- the main source of its $38 billion in annual revenue.

One reason Google has become such a big advertising network: Its search engine analyzes requests to figure out which people are more likely to be interested in marketing pitches about specific products and services. Targeting the ads to the right audience is crucial because in many cases, Google only gets paid when someone clicks on an ad link. And, of course, advertisers tend to spend more money if Google is bringing them more customers.

Q: Is there a way to prevent Google from combining the personal data it collects from all its services?

A: No, not if you're a registered user of Gmail, Google Plus, YouTube, or other Google products. But you can minimize the data Google gathers. For starters, make sure you aren't logged into one of Google's services when you're using Google's search engine, watching a YouTube video or perusing pictures on Picasa. You can get a broad overview of what Google knows about you at http://google.com/dashboard, where a Google account login is required. Google also offers the option to delete users' history of search activity.

It's important to keep in mind that Google can still track you even when you're not logged in to one of its services. But the information isn't quite as revealing because Google doesn't track you by name, only through a numeric Internet address attached to your computer or an alphanumeric string attached to your Web browser.

Q: Are all Google services covered by the privacy policy?

A: No, a few products, such as Google's Chrome Web browser and mobile payment processor Wallet, will still be governed by separate privacy policies.

Q: Is Google's new privacy policy legal?

A: The company has no doubt about it. That's why it's repeatedly rebuffed pleas to delay the changes since announcing the planned revisions five weeks ago. But privacy activists and even some legal authorities have several concerns.

The Electronic Privacy Information Center, a privacy rights group, sued the FTC in a federal court in an effort to force the FTC to exercise its powers and block Google's privacy changes. A federal judge ruled the courts didn't have the authority to tell the FTC how to regulate Google. The FTC says it is always looking for evidence that one of its consent orders has been violated.

Earlier this week, the French regulatory agency CNIL warned Google CEO Larry Page that the new policy appears to violate the European Union's strict data-protection rules. Last week, 36 attorneys general in the U.S. and its territories derided the new policy as an "invasion of privacy" in a letter to Page.

One of the major gripes is that registered Google users aren't being given an option to consent to, or reject, the changes, given that they developed their dependence on the services under different rules. In particular, people who bought smartphones running on Google's Android software, and signed two-year contracts to use the devices, may have a tough time avoiding the new privacy policy. They could switch to non-Google services, but those typically don't work as well on Android software. Or they could buy a different smartphone and pay an early-termination penalty.

Q: What regulatory power do government agencies have to change or amend the privacy changes?

A: The U.S. Federal Trade Commission gained greater oversight over Google's handling of personal information as part of a settlement reached last year. Google submitted to the agreement after exposing its users email contacts when it launched a now-defunct social networking service called Buzz in 2010. The consent order requires Google's handling of personal information to be audited every other year and forbids misleading or deceptive privacy changes.

Google met with the FTC before announcing the privacy changes. Neither the company nor the FTC has disclosed whether Google satisfied regulators that the revisions comply with the consent order.
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This FF add-on came to my attention also, from the original poster. I just installed it myself:
(This is only the download page. It will NOT install automatically.)
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Since installing this add-on, I find it amazing how many times a Google tracker pops up and how many different ones. They are also not the only ones, I am blocking half a dozen already. These are NOT being blocked by ADBLock


For an excellent alternative search engine, may have been mentioned before also:

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google has been tracking and selling personal data for years.
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It's not like our members weren't warned about how to take steps towards protecting their privacy.

Unfortunately, it is now too late for people to follow the instructions I posted...
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It's not like our members weren't warned about how to take steps towards protecting their privacy.

Unfortunately, it is now too late for people to follow the instructions I posted...
Agreed.

What I do find interesting, that every page of this forum I click on, my newly Installed FF add-on "Ghostery" blocks three trackers:

eXTReMe Tracker
Facebook Social Plugins
Google Analytics.

What were/are they doing here?


After reading Alexora's comments below, I decided to look at the above three trackers:

1.About Extreme Digital:

Extreme Digital operates: eXTReMe Tracker

Extreme Digital provides the web analytics tool Extreme Tracker. These are tracking scripts that allow web site owners to "picture the visitors" to their web sites. It ranges from simply counting web site visitors to tracking the keywords they use to find you.

Website:
http://extremetracking.com/

Industry Affiliations:
None

2.About Facebook:

Facebook operates: Facebook Beacon, Facebook Connect, Facebook Conversion Tracking, Facebook Social Plugins

Facebook is an online social network accessible to anyone with an active email address. People use Facebook to keep up with friends, upload photos, share links and videos, and learn more about the people they meet.

Website:
http://facebook.com/

Industry Affiliations:
DMA, IAB.

3. About Google Analytics:

Google Analytics operates: Google Analytics, Google Website Optimizer

Google Analytics is a free service offered by Google that generates detailed statistics about visitors to a Web site for marketers. Google Analytics makes it possible to track users across search engines, email campaigns and display advertising giving advertisers the opportunity to optimize campaigns on multiple platforms.

Website:
http://google.com/intl/en/analytics/index.html

Industry Affiliations:
AAF, DMA, iab, NAI.
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thanks alexora I did follow your instructions almost immediately, just a quick note for Gmail users log on to google/dashboard from there you can learn more and see how much info they have on you.

Manneke_Pis, thanks for that very useful add-on it is installed and fully configured.
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If you're really paranoid about it, just dump Google. They're just gathering info to sell to crap vendors. So what's new? This is the most interesting place I visit on the 'net, so I'm not really worried about it. Gee, me...and 5 billion other people viewing porn. That really puts me in a niche'.
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This looks like a blatant add for Duckduck.go, but makes a lot of sense and provides many reasons to use this alternative.

http://donttrack.us/

I use them now as my preferred search engine and have few complaints, so far.

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