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Old 4th January 2017, 04:58
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You can probably bet Ronda's name tag isn't going to be worth no $3 million anymore to the UFC. She is going to have to work her way back up or move on to doing something else. Anyone else think it seemed like she had another stupid plan to prove her stand up game? Her take down attempts didn't even look like they were there until she was already in trouble and to late by then.
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You can probably bet Ronda's name tag isn't going to be worth no $3 million anymore to the UFC. She is going to have to work her way back up or move on to doing something else. Anyone else think it seemed like she had another stupid plan to prove her stand up game? Her take down attempts didn't even look like they were there until she was already in trouble and to late by then.
It seemed to me like she didn't have any plan at all (or if she did she didn't execute it). She just stood there and got plugged over and over. No head movement whatsoever, and virtually no body movement either. It was different in the Holly Holm fight where she actually moved a lot but got plugged while charging in repeatidly.
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Joe Rogan discussed it with Brendan S., and he thinks she got very hurt with 1st punch or two. And after it was only matter of time... Game plan gone, skill gone, clinch strength also gone, when you're very hurt after 1st or 2nd clean punch 10-15 seconds into 1st round. So we will never know, how prepared skill wise she was or what was their game plan. I highly doubt she and her coach wanted to strike with striker.

Ronda can get 3 mil in her next 5 losses in a row if she wants.

This time, 3 mil purse + reebok money + monster energy money + PPV sales %.

She can go after 6 months on Holly for 145lbs title if she wants, and get same money. But story at this point would HAVE to be:

Ronda switched camp, went in Montreal @ Tristar or something. If she would remain 1 more camp with guy that is not mma coach people would outrage.
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Joe Rogan discussed it with Brendan S., and he thinks she got very hurt with 1st punch or two. And after it was only matter of time... Game plan gone, skill gone, clinch strength also gone, when you're very hurt after 1st or 2nd clean punch 10-15 seconds into 1st round. So we will never know, how prepared skill wise she was or what was their game plan. I highly doubt she and her coach wanted to strike with striker.

Ronda can get 3 mil in her next 5 losses in a row if she wants.

This time, 3 mil purse + reebok money + monster energy money + PPV sales %.

She can go after 6 months on Holly for 145lbs title if she wants, and get same money. But story at this point would HAVE to be:

Ronda switched camp, went in Montreal @ Tristar or something. If she would remain 1 more camp with guy that is not mma coach people would outrage.
I'd agree with most of that. Heard the Joe Rogan picece plus a bunch of others - Kenny Florian, Ray Longo + a few more. All agree she needs to change camp.

But before you get to camps/training discussions I think there's one huge point that has to be addressed - where is she mentally. If she can't get her mental game together there's no camp or training in the world that will put humpty-dumpty back together again.

Since she appeared as a coach on TUF with Meisha Tate I've always thought her mental state was unstable. Having suffered two devastating losses I doubt she can recover any sort of confidence. I'll be very surprised if she appears in the Octagon again.

If she does come back I really doubt she can demand a 3 million purse though. Until she has a spectacular win she's damaged goods and her PPV value is seriously diminished.
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Yeah, this was the fight that had the comeback appeal angle. She's now just a fighter on a 2 loss streak, nothing really special there. Her name maybe could bring the mainstream appeal still but that's nowhere near what it was 14 months ago.

And now for something completely different: Brock Lesnar suspended one year by USADA, backdated to the failed test. Over/Under for how many more fights in UFC for Brock+Ronda at 0.5??

http://mmafighting.com/2017/1/4/...in-doping-case
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Until she has a spectacular win she's damaged goods and her PPV value is seriously diminished.
Are you underestimating UFC's PR machinery now that they are bought by another PR giant, that is in huge debt?

They can sell us dog shit and after 3 months of marketing we will think it is truffles. ESPECIALLY Ronda's fans that know SHIT about MMA. She pull Beyonce's fans into buying PPV, not Diaz Bros fans.

They will approach it like this. Bla bla, injury, bla bla, bad camp. But NOW guys she is 100% healthy, training last 10 months under Firas Zahabi, going for her stand-up training in savage mode in some hole in Thailand with bunch of killers, bla bla.

Or going back to her roots, in best wrestling program in USA, so she could get girls down and armbar them..

Then her comback fight is vs Holly Holm.

3 mil = easy
10 mil = most likely

Only question is, does she want it... PPV value is intact, IMHO.
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In the end, Mark Hunt accepted fight Vs. Overeem.

He put up good fight tho, but seems like UFC didn't care. I'm glad he did not decide to on on lawsuit and lose his hard earned money to lawyer fees.

He was right, but it's hard to go vs corporation...
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Are you underestimating UFC's PR machinery now that they are bought by another PR giant, that is in huge debt?

They can sell us dog shit and after 3 months of marketing we will think it is truffles. ESPECIALLY Ronda's fans that know SHIT about MMA. She pull Beyonce's fans into buying PPV, not Diaz Bros fans.

They will approach it like this. Bla bla, injury, bla bla, bad camp. But NOW guys she is 100% healthy, training last 10 months under Firas Zahabi, going for her stand-up training in savage mode in some hole in Thailand with bunch of killers, bla bla.

Or going back to her roots, in best wrestling program in USA, so she could get girls down and armbar them..

Then her comback fight is vs Holly Holm.

3 mil = easy
10 mil = most likely

Only question is, does she want it... PPV value is intact, IMHO.
Hehe!! OK - I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree - but it'll be a good talking point when and if she returns.
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Well I just watched some of Rizin 4: Rizin Fighting World Grand Prix 2016: Final Round. Some interesting fights but a somewhat weird event. There was a whiff of UFC early days with weight mis-matches - like Mirco Crocop a relative lightweight at 233.7 pounds against Estonia's Baruto weighing in at a mere 396.9 pounds.

While that might have whiffed a little - one fight stank to high heaven. Gabbi Garcia 31 years old, 6' 2" and 209 pounds (and from the look of her frame has a solid steroid regime in place) going up against Yumkioi Hotta 49 years old, 5' 6" and 171 pounds. What a stupid, ridiculous stinker of a match. Here it is in all it's stinky glory.

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I think Joe Rogan said it best about Mark Hunt, "If anyone has a right to pissed off about the cheating that fighters are doing it's him, his last 3 fights have robbed him of possible wins because of his opponents doping. "

They screwed Mark Hunt over (IMHO) and they could care less that it happened. I wish he could have sued them but now with the sale of the company it's going to be damn near impossible and the UFC is the biggest MMA company soo.....

They should give him (Mark Hunt) a fight with Dana White.....that I would PAY to see live rather than waiting for a download of that event....LOL
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